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JW Children Lie in Custody Cases

by compound complex in

direct and cross-examination questions in child custody cases.

wtb&ts, page 42.

"be careful that they [jw children being questioned] don't get the impression that they are in a demonstration at the circuit assembly, when they would show that the first things in life are service and going to the kingdom hall.

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Eduardo,

There is no way you can reconcile this statement:

Be careful they don't all say that they are going to be pioneers. Plans can be trade, getting married and having children, journalism, and all kinds of other things.

with the "council" and "suggestions" that the Watchtower has repeatedly printed over the years warning of the "dangers" of pursuing higher education, of wanting to have any kind of career other than pioneering. They have even been known to suggest that young couples seriously consider not having children, because of "where we are in the stream of time."

Every witness knows that "balanced life" means attending five meetings a week, spending time in field service regularly, and making pioneering the main goal for children after graduating high school.

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Judicial Committee Preparation

by Marvin Shilmer in

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judicial committee preparation.

recently a friend inquired about how to best prepare for a judicial committee hearing from the prospective of the subject individual.

at a minimum i recommend the following:.

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Gary wrote:

Those elders sit in a room and the victim walks in to face them through the only door. It'd be like shooting fish in a barrel.

So, taking this approach, only two questions are needed:

How many exits are there?

Will any of the elders be armed?

Ask those two questions and I think your problems are solved.

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Judicial Committee Preparation

by Marvin Shilmer in

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judicial committee preparation.

recently a friend inquired about how to best prepare for a judicial committee hearing from the prospective of the subject individual.

at a minimum i recommend the following:.

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dup post, nevermind

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Is this Jacko's new wife?

by Atlantis in

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(please delete if already posted).. quote to look for?.

miss rwaramba has returned to bible study, and is believed to be a jehovah's witness again, as he is.. .

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/showbiz/showbiznews.html?in_article_id=415788&in_page_id=1766&ito=1490 is this jacko's new wife?by alison boshofflast updated at 23:24pm on 10th november 2006 reader comments (3).

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Michael DA'd himself many years ago, back in the 80's. Actually I think his case is what originated the whole concept of a JW Disassociating himself.

Interesting that he will be doing a performance of Thriller, since that is the song that got him in such deep do-do back in the day. It was the big controversy. I remember how what a big deal it was for the dubs when the Awake! came out with an article where they "interviewed" him and he apologized for making such a scary video.

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The First Circuit Assembly in the Conyers, GA Assembly Hall

by What-A-Coincidence in

gag alert!!!.

the first circuit assembly in the conyers, ga assembly hall.

all the meeting rooms have lcd televisions so the brothers doing.

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Even the "baby lounge" has an LCD for mothers.
Depending on local ordinances, this may be a violation. Not that it would matter to those under "Theocratic Law."

Honesty, how would this be a violation? No Apologies

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JW husband very sad

by Rebirth in

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i have been out of jws for about three years, husband still goes and brings out two young girls.

he has been really withdrawn lately, eating less, not interested in sex.

i thought he was moping because i recently had a birthday party for our young daughter and because of halloween activities.

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Hey MIL

It must be very depressing for married male JW's whose wives leave the WTS to face up to the fact that they may actually have to work at their marriage. After all, the WTS did all the work to keep the wife in subjection to everyone and everything....him, the elders, the congregation. I guess the only way to deal with it now is to whine and moan and be sarcastic and try to lay a big guilt trip on the wife in the hopes that her good nature and habit of keeping the peace will make her throw all of her personal convictions out the window so she can do whats really important....which is to devote her life to making him happy.

You must be from some parallel JW universe where this kind of behavior exists. Cause it sure ain't that way here. It was more of the opposite: my ex-wife constantly used the elders to pressure me into being the "ideal" JW hubby.

The whole wifely subjection thing was a big joke in every congregation I have ever been in. Unless they are complete rednecks, most JWs become embarrassed just uttering that phrase.

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UNDERGROUND RAILROAD (helping JWs see)

by apocalypse in

i am an "active" jw.

i serve.

give talks.

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Question for you apocalypse:

But we can allow our blood to be separated and only the allowable portions utilized.

What procedure are you referring to? And where is it deemed as acceptable(conscience matter) for JWs?

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Logically consistent theories of ID exist.

by hooberus in

the following is one theory that comes from the id book the biotic messagehttp://www1.minn.net/~science/contents.htm by walter remine.

"an intelligent designer is necessary for the origin of life from non-life.

" the biotic message page.

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That's not even a theory, its an assertion. Here's another one:

An intelligent designer would have to have a designer himself.

Can you logically disprove my statement?

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How significant was the 1995 bombshell - generation?

by jambon1 in

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i was wondering what effect the article on the generation change had on most people here?.

for years, the trump card on the ministry when replying to the "it will never come in my day" objection to armageddon, was the doctrine of the generation.

many jw`s probobly held back from making important financial comitments.

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Hi Gary,

Shunning tightened up, then in early 2003 there was a 3 month purge. More than a few elders started over Christmas of 2002 and used Christmas decorations as a easy way to shun a former member.

Can you explain these two sentences a little more? a few elders started what?

thanks,

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Met with the C.O., and need help with 1975

by OnTheWayOut in

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here is a quick summary, in august i turned in an elder resignation letter stating that i could not teach doctrine from the governing body because i did not "know" them at all, and i had doubts.

when asked by the elders, i said the doubts spring from this generation and 1975. the elders took no action, waiting for mother to tell them what to do.

would want to talk to me on his visit.. this week, our c.o.

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I pointed out that article from 2001 that V quoted a while back, to me it still implies a 7000 year creative day, and is the most recent reference to this concept. As others have stated, they usually refer to creative days as lasting for thousands of years, its reassuring to the old-timers, while still acceptable to younger and better-educated dubs. Also, the fact that they acknowledge that the Universe is billions of years old makes them sound a little more rational than the Young-Earth people.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/115365/1.ashx

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